scott along with congresswoman karen bass are negotiating this stalled police reform bill named, as alisyn said, after george floyd. is there a sense that these meetings today could spark some movement? >> reporter: well, there's certainly a sense, erica, that there is movement on this particular issue. you know, we're up here on the hill sometimes and things -- they say there's movement and there's really not. in this case there's a lot of cautious optimism floating around on capitol hill that senator scott, senator booker and representative bass can actually get something done. just yesterday we heard from senator scott who said he sees the light at the end of the tunnel and all three of them agree they are working off a framework. they have made a considerable amount of progress considering they were pretty far apart when this all started. what we also did was hear from senator lindsey graham, who's been on the periphery of this. he's not a main negotiator but taking part in the meetings.

a bit ago he said he thinks that everybody that's involved wants to get to a yes. he thinks this is doable. and he thinks that everybody is negotiating in good faith. so, again, more optimism from a republican there that thinks this can get potentially over the finish line. i also just spoke with congresswoman karen bass, who had been talking with the president of the naacp. of course, a very vested outside group in the outcome of this bill. you know, some progressives in the house have said they don't want things like qualified immunity, one of the biggest sticking points. i asked congresswoman bass what she's saying to these more progressive groups that say they don't want to compromise. her attitude is she's been fighting for this, she told me, for years and years and years, and she really believes this will be substantive reform, this will make a difference and she has made a commitment to progressives and others that the second president biden signs a new bill, she's going to get right back to work. we can certainly see the

contours of what's coming together here. bass telling me it's really coalescing at this point. again, there are these sticking points that remain, but they certainly seem to be making progress towards getting past the finish line. they had always said they weren't adhering to any timeline, despite the fact that president biden called on them to have a bill to his desk by today. that's obviously not going to happen. but all along they've been telling me they want the right bill, not a rushed bill, and the three of them sincerely believe they can get something done on this. one more thing to keep in mind, you guys, as they progress on this. there's a lot of respect between the key negotiators. they trust and respect one another and they all three have the backing of their leadership. the idea being, if they can come together on an idea, leadership will back them as well. >> really interesting to hear why they still have optimism, even though they're missing the deadline. thank you very much. so, here's some live pictures for you. this is a park in minneapolis

where the george floyd memorial foundation is hosting a remembrance at this hour. cnn's joe johns is there live. joe, how is george floyd being honored and remembered today? >> reporter: well, for one thing, talking about politics, quite frankly, alisyn. we have another example just a little while ago of how this notorious murder case in minneapolis has now morphed into a political movement that has real demands. just a little while ago george floyd's sister spoke to this audience and she reminded them about the fact that the original idea had been for the george floyd justice and policing act, to be on the president's desk by this day, the anniversary of his death. that hasn't happened. she said, that's part of the reason why she's not in d.c. with other members of our family. listen? >> so my message to the president, get your people in

order, get your people in order, because we're going to continue to fight this good old fight. we're going to continue to fight this good old fight. so, there is my reason of not being in d.c. today, and it's okay. because i have no doubt in my mind the bill is going to get passed. when it gets passed, that's when i'll make my way to d.c. >> reporter: jessica explained to you all the reasons why that bill has not reached president biden's desk yet, but it's very clear here today, on the anniversary of george floyd's death, that there is a real expectation we're going to see a bill and it's going to reach the president. backs to you. >> joe johns for us live in minneapolis, thank you. joining us now, cnn law enforcement analyst, joe barksdale and cnn political analyst, aaron herndon with "the

new york times." as we look at where we have come in the year since george floyd's murder, you know, you covered his funeral last spring. i'm just curious as you're reflecting on what you have seen both in your coverage, and honestly just as a human being, as we're watching what has and has not changed over the last year, what really stands out to you on this anniversary of his death? >> yeah, it's been a year that we've often used the word reckoning, but it's really been a year of challenge and tension, i think, for a lot of people, including myself. as a journalist, as a black journalist, as a black man in this country, sometimes those identities feel like they can be in conflict. as a journalist, you need to talk to all sides of the spectrum to get a sense of political sensibilities across the aisle. as a plaque journalist we exist in the long tradition of pushing the profession on issues of social justice, on racism and calling that language out clearly and that has been true for years and years.

but as a black person in this country, you cannot deny the pain that has been wrought over this last year and the consistent reminders of the devaluing of black life that has happened in america. you know, i was at that wake, as you said n houston. i remember after kind of completing my story, i was about to head out. i thought, why haven't i actually gone into this service? why didn't i go through the line and see the body? and i was thinking that as a person, as a black man, i wanted to do that. i put down the phone, i kind of missed deadline for 45 minutes and decided to do that. and i think about that summer and that moment as one where everywhere where lots of folks were struggling with that. how do i exist in this as a person versus how do i exist in this in my profession? that's what this reckoning has meant to us all. it's a real wrestling with how race plays on you the in our day-to-day life. >> and how does this play out for police, and commissioner, that's where you come in. we put together a few changes we

know about. state legislatures passed 140 police oversight and reform laws in the past year. at least four cities shifted their funding from police departments to other services such as mental health agencies. that's not exactly defund the police but it was a redistribution. what have you seen, commissioner, in terms of what, if anything, has changed? >> i'm seeing an adjustment. they're trying to adjust to the political climate, they're trying to adjust to the voices of black lives matter and defund the police. while that's going on across the united states, we're seeing significant levels of gun violence in minority black and brown communities. so, while this is all going on, the pace of reform definitely is trying to speed up, but unfortunately as we're seeing today, without the george floyd bill on president biden's desk,

we've got a lot of work to do, a whole lot of work to do. >> that pace, you know, the pace with which there is or is not change is certainly something that comes up, and also all the politics at play here. as we look at the politics at this point, you know, sadly in some ways it's amazing we're at the point, as we learned from jessica, that things really could be moving and there's actual movement. but the politics behind all of that is raw and it is out front. and it doesn't -- aim curious. in your reporting on the political part of it, does it feel like there's been much of a shift politically or is it more sort of digging in heels? >> you know, i travel the country all last year for the election and you felt a shift among the american people, among the public there was a sense, even among folks who were more moderate or conservative about what happened to george floyd was wrong. and that there was a growing consensus that there was

something in policing that needed to be addressed. now, that window has changed among conservatives specifically. and i think that we also have seen a political moment that never really caught up to that consensus that we had as -- around the country last summer. that was because of a lot of factors, as we all know here. you have gerrymandering districts that don't think about the center but the fringes. you have a filibuster that has demanded congress to see -- has really ramped up partisanship on that side of the senate. you, frankly, have two parties that see issues of race and identity from further and further apart from one another. we don't really have a kind of joint reality basis on the issue. and so it's not only pace, but i would talk about scope as well when we talk about the george floyd policing act. remember, when we talk about what activists were demanding last summer, it goes much further than what we're seeing, even if that bill named after george floyd. there is a distance even among what we would think of as liberals and progressives, among what should be done in terms of the scope of police reform. it's about reacting to police

actions or is it about preventing police from even having the next george floyd? i think those are two thins we still see the parties wrestling with. that's part of the reason we don't see that bill on biden's desk today. >> commissioner, you pointed out that as we're having all these conversations and trying to make these reforms, crime rates are going up. with he saw that spate of shootings and gun violence last weekend. frankly, with see it many days, all of the gun violence. we see that murder rates are going up in big cities. some governors are trying to tie it, like governor abbott of texas, as though this is connected somehow to defund the police, though most police funds -- i mean, police forces have not been defunded. i think in texas the austin police, they redistributed something like 7% of their funds to, again, these other agencies. do you see a connection between these conversations and the need for reform and the crime rates going up? >> i don't see the connection. here's my problem.

we poured billions of dollars into policing and we look and we're all seeing this crime going up. so, if they're not effective right now, why put more money in? the assumption to thinking, well, if i give you millions more to the billions you already have coming in that you're going to suddenly overnight turn it around, it doesn't make sense to me. i've run a big city agency. and to think that money you just -- you just pour money in and we're going to win. that's foolish. that's just like thinking we're going to win the drug war. you have to hold people accountable to give the citizens safety with what they have. and if they can't do it, if there's no accountability at the executive level, why are you pouring more money in? defund the police at times, to me, in some circumstances, is makes sense to me. simply as looking at -- just

looking at fiscal issues, return on investment. >> that's a really interesting perspective. we're grateful to have you here to give it to us. commissioner anthony barksdale, astead herndon, thank you for your reporting and sharing your thoughts on this year as well. next, republican senators have a new offer on the infrastructure bill. $1 trillion, almost half of what the president originally proposed. has biden privately signaled that he'll accept this? plus, moderna set to become the second vaccine, perhaps, authorized for teens. we'll take a look at what's in this data the company just revealed. republican leaders finally speaking out to condemn marjorie taylor greene's incredibly offensive comments, comparing mask wearing and vaccines to the holocaust. but there is still plenty of politics at play here in those responses coming five days after her comments.

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we're following fast-moving developments between the white house and republican lawmakers over president biden's infrastructure proposal. gop senators say biden has privately signaled he's open to a bill with a much lower price tag than his original wish list, maybe even $1 trillion lower. here's what senator thune chaired on capitol hill moments ago. >> my impression is the staff at

the white house isn't as inclined to make a deal as, perhaps, the president is. but we've got people who are working in good faith. shell shelly caputo and others are working on bills. at the moment they don't seem to be interested in that. i hope that that changes. >> cnn's chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins joins us. is that true, the staff isn't inclined but president biden is? >> the white house says it's not the staff making these decisions, it is president biden, and so they say they're not negotiating through the press but the response to these allegations from republicans, which is that they're saying in these private meetings, president biden seemed open to taking some of what they're framing as social spending off the table for this infrastructure package. of course, that's been one big fight of this, is how to define

infrastructure and how republicans view and how the white house and democratics view it. now republicans say the white house is changing course on that several days later. so while they are preparing to come out with their own counterproposal of about $1 trillion on thursday, it seems these talks are souring between the white house and these republicans over where they are going from here. remember, it was the white house that said they wanted to see progress on these discussions by memorial day. time is ticking and we are getting closer and closer to that deadline with no real progress being made. i think it depends on how the white house is going to respond to that offer that they get from republicans, that counteroffer, which we are told is expected to come on thursday, be in the ballpark of about $1 trillion, which republican senators said biden seemed open to during those private meetings but it also would be less than half, of course, of what he had initially put forward. you've seen some democrats, progressives like bernie sanders

calling on democratic leaders to not really change the scope of their bill, just to apiece republicans, but instead to move forward or go bigger than what he initially put forward. of course, this is going to be a critical week to determine whether or not president biden is going to get that bipartisanship that he wants. right now things are not looking promising between these negotiations that are happening between the two sides, though. >> we'll keep watching. kaitlan, thank you. this just coming into the cnn. the cdc says the u.s. has officially reached the milestone much vaccinating half the adult population in the cannot. >> that's huge. and more news, also new today, moderna announcing its vaccine is safe for children as young as 12. the company says its research also shows that just one dose of its vaccine provides significant protection for adolescence so moderna will now follow pfizer. moderna will submit the findings to the fda next month in hopes of becoming hopes of authorization for the vaccine for children.

here to talk about all of this is dr. william shaffner, from vanderbilt. doctor, great to see you. let's start there. 50% of american adults have been vaccinated. i mean, that's a great number. >> that's a great number but it's the easy half, right? now we've got the other half to come in and be vaccinated. where have they been? why aren't we up close to 100% yet? come on, folks. come on in. the water's fine. the vaccine really does work. it's driving those cases down. we'll celebrate the first half but we'll have to work harder to get that second half vaccinated. >> we'll see if maybe some of this other news can, perhaps, inspire them to roll up their sleeves. this news moderna is saying their trials are showing their vaccine is safe in 12 to 17-year-olds and they're going to submit that for authorization. i mean, yes, that's important.

it could mean another vaccine but there's also a broader message there that could be helpful. >> of course. it's that we now have two vaccines for those preteens and teenagers. that's wonderful. we have plenty of vaccine to vaccinate them as well as all the other adults who haven't come in for vaccination. when the parents bring the children in, let's vaccinate them both. >> doctor, how about that idea that they get a lot of protection from just one vaccination. could moderna just be a single dose for adolescents? >> well, i haven't seen those data yet. i'm not sure that moderna is asking for that. we want to get everybody up to 95% protection. we know you get good protection after the first dose, but to really boost it up high, that's important because height of antibody results in longer protection. of course, we're looking for that, too. >> you know, i'm just curious.

we've spent the last year plus, right, thankfully speaking with you and you've been so helpful over the course of the pandemic. as we look at where we're at, as you point out, the second half of the adult population is going to be a little more work to get them vaccinated. but looking where we are as a country right now, i'm just curious you're thoughts on being at this point heading into memorial day weekend much different than what we saw in 2020. >> absolutely. you see me smiling. i'm all excited about everything that we've accomplished and more to come. i think the country is coming out, they're going out and about their affairs. we ought to have a very nice summer, spending the time outdoors. many of us unmasked. we're moving in the right direction and we need to keep moving in that direction. i'm very pleased. >> all right. myocarditis, which i think is some sort of heart inflammation. what do we need to know about that in kids? >> well, first of all,

myocarditis that means inflammation of the heart muscle. first of all, most people don't know that that happens occasionally in young people. it does. so, now we are vaccinating young people and, big surprise, after the vaccination, sometimes you get a case of myocarditis, the inflammation. cdc tells us, that's the background rate. it's happening at the same right as in unpopulated population. there's no causal relationship. we don't want parents backing off vaccinating young people. we're watching this very, very carefully. >> just to be clear, there's been no spike in the rate of myocarditis in the young people in the past year, it's held

steady, vaccine or no vaccine? >> beautiful. that's exactly correct. the background rate is what we're seeing now. there's been no increase, particularly no increase above that background rate among children who already have been vaccinated. as i say, these analyses will continue, but so far, so good. >> you know, as we look at more and more young people getting the vaccine, the initial numbers in that first week since pfizer was authorized for kids was fantastic for those 12 and up. but moving forward, there's a lot of questions about how this is going to impacts families who have children. some children were eligible to get vaccinated, some who are not old enough and how that's impacting decisions families are making. i'm just curious, what's your message to families like that? look, i'm one of those families. i have a 14-year-old one shot in and an 11-year-old won't be eligible until he turns 12 in march. >> just a few days ago or a few weeks ago, you had two children

who were unvaccinated, so we keep having to be careful with the youngest. the family can certainly get together and get together with other families, small groups, particularly outside. we're going to do all right with this. stay away from the large groups unmasked, particularly your youngster. >> doctor, we really appreciate talking to you, as always. >> my pleasure. next, republican leaders finally condemning marjorie taylor greene for her sickening comments, comparing mask mandates to the holocaust. one influential republican fund-raiser says she could benefit from a trip to the holocaust museum. he'll visit with a rabbi about what she needs to learn.

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going to be patient to make sure it's the right bill, not a rushed bill. also the family encouraged the president to continue to meet with the civil rights leaders and advocacy groups who have been working on this for decades, like reverend al and the naacp and the national urban league and many others. so, with that, i will present to you philonise floyd. >> how are you all doing? >> how are you doing? >> i'm doing great. just -- we met with the president and the vp. it was just for the remembrance of what happened to my brother because this was his day that he was murdered. it was great. he's a genuine guy. they always speak from the heart. and it's a pleasure just to be able to have the chance to meet with them when he we have that

opportunity. we're just thankful for what's going on and we just want this george floyd policing act to be passed in the future. >> is there any way -- >> is there a message you want -- >> no, because this is the thing. if you can make federal laws to protect the bird, the bald eagle, you can make federal laws to protect people of color. >> what about the fact that you don't have -- >> now we will have his brother, rodney floyd. >> how are you guys doing? today is about the remembrance of our brother, george floyd, father, uncle, friend, cousin, and mr. president and vice president gave us our condolences, touching back on what happened last year, reiterating everything. they asked how we're doing. are we taking care of ourselves, counseling, and asking us about how we're feeling about what's

going on with our brother. we're thankful they showed great concern and -- you guys -- >> did the president offer reassurance he would personally make sure -- >> now you will hear from terence floyd. we may take one or two questions at the end. maybe. >> hello, everyone. hello. hello. being here today is an honor to meet with the president and the vice president and for them to show their concern to our family and for them to actually give an ear to our concerns and how we feel on the situation. and i feel it was a very productive conversation and i'm grateful for it. and i thank everybody for the love. thank you. >> now you'll hear from brandon williams, the nephew of george floyd, who was like a son to him. >> how are you doing? >> pretty good. how are you doing?

>> i'm great. i think it was it was a very great meeting. we're appreciative and grateful that the president and vice president invited us here. i think the meeting went well. he showed concern, and i think genuinely he wanted to know how we were doing and what he could do to support us, and he did let us know he supports passing the bill, but he wants to make sure it's the right bill and not a rushed bill. he also said -- he said he's not happy about it not being made, but all in all, he just wants the bill to be right and meaningful and it holds george's legacy intact. thank you. >> and now you'll hear from my co-counsels. it's always a team effort. we have a great team that's standing with the family, a great legal team. turning to chris stewart. >> on behalf of roxie, baby will, the president actually interacted and played with gianna. she had an absolute ball. that's why it was a sad day

across the country but it was a super happy day seeing her smile. she's still smiling. so if everybody can come together, democrat and republican, and pass the bill. if you care about policing and the people, it will get passed. >> now we will hear from attorney tony romanuchi, another great co-counsel. >> good day, everybody. nice to see you all. i think what's important about today commemorating the one-year date of george floyd's death is that we need this bill passed. here's why we need it passed. we need to protect lives as opposed to take life. we need people saved on the streets of our country as opposed to being unnecessarily shot by police. that's what's so important about this day. that's why i'm so proud to be standing with the floyd family today, being a representative, and fighting for this bill to make sure it is meaningful and substantial. thank you all. >> now we will hear briefly from

attorney justin miller and we have one more speaker after that. >> good afternoon. the important thing to remember, and i think everyone has spoken on different things, but the important thing i want everyone to remember is this. there have been other bills that have been passed in the last three months protecting different groups of people. this group of people needs to be protected, too. and this started a long time ago. there are some things that started a lot sooner that got presented a lot faster. we just ask that you, if you're out there watching, you know, urge your congressmen, urge your senator to pass this bill because it's very, very important. thank you. >> and then finally, before we take a question or two, is national bar association president, attorney c.k. hovland. >> good afternoon. justice for one is justice for all. on behalf of the over 66,000

mostly african-american lawyers in this country and globally, we must support the passage of the george floyd justice in policing act. we don't have a choice. unless we want to see the carnage that we've seen happen over and over and over again. and that's not acceptable. so, please, call your senator and press upon everybody in your community that we've got to do this. we've got to pass it. thank you. >> we're just going to do this one time for his family back in houston and north carolina who couldn't be here. we're going to all raise our fists and say, say his name, fee anna, come up here. do you want to say his name? say his name. >> say his name. >> george floyd. >> say it again. >> say it loud, baby.

>> say his name. >> george floyd. >> thank you, all. that's for his family that could not be here today. >> i have a question. ben, gop is trying to get buy-in from policing organizations on the george floyd policing act. that's one of the reasons we're hearing it was stalled and that's why it was not signed into law by the president today. what say you about the fact that they're looking for police organizations to buy in? it looks like it's civil rights versus qualified immunity? >> we're going to leave here and go meet with senator booker and senator scott, two of the lead negotiators in the united states senate to continue to talk about a bipartisan bill. we don't think there has to be one against the other. it should be we all want better policing. we all want just policing where

george floyd were given the opportunity to take a breath without having a knee on his neck, where breonna taylor can sleep without her door busted in with six bullets in her body. we're going to continue to press to say, yeah, we have to respect the spilled blood that's on this legislation. it must be meaningful and we can do this together. this is an american issue. this isn't police issue or civil rights issue. we have to look at this as a national issue that we have avoided dealing with far too long. i think, chris, c.k., it has been 57 years since we've had meaningful legislation. and we look back at history, we remember jimmy lee jackson being killed in alabama and martin luther king and john lewis in

selma using that as the impetus to get the civil rights act finally passed after years and years of trying. we pray that history can repeat itself and that the death of george floyd will help propel us to finally get meaningful police reform. >> did president biden offer any -- >> sorry, guys. we're going to wrap it up. thank you so much. >> anybody from the gop or police union on your side? >> okay. you've been listening to george floyd's family and their attorney, benjamin crump. they just emerged from a long meeting with president biden and vice president harris. and, you know, i just have to say, erica, this family's tone from the very beginning has been, i think, an inspiration for a lot of the coverage. they have -- even if their

darkest hours of grief, they have been nothing but open-hearted and i think graceful in terms of calling for what they wanted. what they've always called for were peaceful protests. they wanted justice for george floyd, which i know that they feel they have received in part because of the conviction of derek chauvin. and then they wanted police reform and they're still fighting for that, but you've never heard them express hatred or revenge or call for violence or anything like that. they are just soldiering on through their grief and going on washington, now they're going to meet with the senators who are leading the charge here, and they're just making their personal appeal for what it would mean to their family and what it would mean for the country. >> as you pointed out when you spoke with george floyd's cousin just in the last hour, and i know you pointed that out to her, just how hopeful they have been as a family in the midst of so much they've had to deal with. and i think to your point, too, we did hear that today. the other thing that i think

really stood out, and we just heard this from benjamin crump, their lead attorney, talking about this is really when we look at this issue of the george floyd justice in policing act, this bill, he pointed out, this is not civil rights or policing. it's not a one or the other issue. in his words, he said it's an american issue. i think you see that in the humanity of the family, right? as they talk about this is, yes, about george floyd, but there are so many others who are involved here. this is about the greater humanity at stake. and that conversation, to your point, alisyn, has really inspired a lot of people. >> i mean, here they are taking a big group shot this the afternoon with nancy pelosi. yeah, as they just pointed out, when congress wants to, they can come together to pass things that i think the family would say are of equal or not as great

import as what they're asking for in terms of some police reform. they just want the same treatment. they want congress and lawmakers to be able to come together on this because so many lawmakers say they wanted this, say this is the right time, and they want -- the deadline has passed today but they're still hopeful they'll be able to have some bipartisan push in all of this. >> a lot of that comes from holding their feet to the fire and it comes from the family continuing to speak out and continuing to say, look, this is what we're asking for. this is what the country needs. this is, frankly, what people have been asking for for generations at this point, but it's important not to let that conversation end and an important as we saw gianna there, who captured so many hearts, including, as we know, the president's own as we saw her saying there, say his name, george floyd, her father. we will continue to follow their journey through washington today and yondz and we will be right back.

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a democratic senior aide tells cnn that democratic leadership discussed whether it was legally possible to get a restraining order against georgia republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene for her aggressive behavior towards congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez. pressure continues to mount on republican leadership to take action against greene for her appalling comments comparing mask mandates to the horrors of the holocaust. it took five days but this morning a few gop leaders tepidly condemned her comments. rabbi steve letter is the rabbi for wilshire boulevard temple and the author of the book "the

beauty what have remains and our greatest fear becomes our greatest gift." rabbi, thank you very much for being here. great to see you again. i just, you know, we always wrestle with whether or not to play her appalling comments, but i think that we need to hear them again because i want to get your reaction to them, and i don't want people to forgot what she has said so here is marjorie taylor greene. >> you know, we can look back at a time in history where people were told to wear a gold star and they were definitely treated like second class citizens so much so that they were put in traipse and taken to gas chambers in nazi germany. this is exactly the type of abuse that nancy pelosi is talking about. >> what do you hear in those comments, rabbi? >> i hear a trivialization of the holocaust, a manipulation of the holocaust, a

misrepresentation of the holocaust. i hear extraordinary and disgusting disrespect for the 6 million jews for whom that yellow star meant they were gettoized and shoved into boxcars, gassed an indiana is rated, including 1.5 million children who went up chimneys in smoke. i hear disrespect for all the victims of all the genocides that humanity has had to endure, and to compare a yellow star which was used to objectify and devalue the lives of so many millions of people, to compare that to a mask which is used to sanctify life, to value life, to protect life, yours, mine, everyone else's, i have to say i could not think of a worse or

more false analogy. it's absolutely mind-boggling, and there are no words. >> rabbi, do you see this as part and parcel of the spike in anti-semitic attacks and hate speech and crimes that we're seeing across the country or is she in a category all her own? >> well, i don't think she is. i think there's very dangerous anti-semitism on the far right and there's very dangerous anti-semitism on the far left, and i think that we really need to call it out when we see it. you know, i was just listening to that very moving conversation with george floyd's family. i happen to be from minneapolis. my father's business is about three blocks from where he was murdered, and i think it's very, very powerful when we say his name. what i would like to do is call on all of our woke friends with whom the jews have marched

against racism, against bigotry, against hatred, against violence. i would like all of our woke friends when they see anti-semitism, and we know when we see it, to say its name, say its name, say its name. it's very real. it's very dangerous. it's very deadly, and anyone subjected to it deserves support and compassion, and marjorie taylor greene is the antithesis of support and compassion for the jewish people. >> one of the board members of the holocaust museum has suggested in a tweet basically what's wrong with you, he asks, and he also says that he'd be happy to give her a tour of the holocaust museum to educate her. if you could do the same, if you could give her a tour, what would you show her? >> i would take her to auschwitz

where i've been, and i would walk her through the process that jews went through right into the gas chamber and let her feel it and let her understand the difference between the yellow star and a mask. the difference between objectification and devaluing life and sanctifying and valuing life, everyone's livesch. >> and rabbi, i mean, that's so powerful. do you think that some people are just, you know, sort of beyond repair? i mean, you are a man of the clergy. you are, you know, a faithful man, a forgiving man. what is wrong with her, and how are we supposed to treat those people among us who seem hateful? well, she's incredible ignorant for one and lacks empathy, you know. without empathy there is no kindness. there is no understanding.

i -- i have no idea what her childhood was all about or her upbringing, but i suspect it was pretty grim in some way because people who lack empathy usually lacked it themselves when they were young, but i have no idea, but i -- i have to say that there is a certain point at which it does not behoove us to be in denial about people who -- who hate. it does not behoove us. i remember 1981 when the then prime minister of israel menachim beghin, he says when your enemy seeks to destroy you, believe him, so there's a certain point at which we really have to accept the fact that some people are so filled with

hatred that they simply, simply cannot be repaired, and we have to protect ourselves in every way that we can from them and have to protect society from them. >> we always appreciate talking to you. thank you very much. even in the hard times, it's an inspiration to talk to you, and we'll talk again. >> thank you. it's an honor to be with you. thank you. >> erica. >> i know we have another story, but i think that was such an important and such a good conversation, and he is remarkable. >> agreed. >> and it was just really, really powerful and important. also powerful, also important is the discussion we're having right now about police reform, and it's playing out not just in washington where there's a lot of focus today but in nearly every state in the country. in texas, for example, governor greg abbott taking a stand on calls to defund local police departments. monday he tweeted he's about to sign a law preventing texas cities from doing just that saying texas won't tolerate

this. >> and it's just the latest in a series of moves that align him with the far right of his party and signing a law that bans most abortions after six weeks, and he's set to sign another bill that would allow people to carry hand guns in public without a permit. ron brownstein is a cnn senior political analyst and senior editor at "the atlantic." ron, great to see you. your thoughts on all of that. >> yeah, look, i think what we are seeing across the board is a spasm or even a convulsion in red america in pc lash to the democratic victories that gave them unified control of the federal government in washington. as you noted half a dozen states have passed laws that would ban abortion by no more than six weeks, sometimes completely. we're seeing the permitless -- a permitless carry bills allowing people to carry weapons without any permit. the bills limiting the ability of transgender kids to play in high school sports or even to access medical care and, of course, the wave of voter suppression bills that are

passion all of this combined with the point that you mentioned in texas increased efforts by republicans who run these red states bayed on their dominance of rural areas to override decisions being made in their increasingly blue metros like houston and dallas and san antonio and austin, and in all of these ways you're seeing red states very dramatically lurch to the right in this legislative session. >> i mean, it's also the antithesis in so many ways of what we hear and have heard from republicans. it's always about less government. >> right. >> this is the exact opposite. >> and not only that, the argument about federalism. remember when bob dole ran for president in 1996 and carried a cope of the tenth amendment in his pocket because the argument was that authorities shut devolve down to the local level, but you are seeing this across the board. look at what happened in arizona and texas and georgia and florida during the pandemic when republican governors overrode decisions by local officials, mostly democratic, on limiting hours during the pandemic.

they overrode mask requirements and now we see georgia the latest today moving to block any requirements for showing the vaccination and consistently this is real one. key dynamics that's happening all across the sunbelt states that are change politically, erica. the metros are consistently growing increasingly democrat. biden would all four democratic metros and because of its dominance in the rural areas is to expand their efforts to override what the local governments are doing. even the voter suppression bills are important in that regard. georgia giving them the authority to throw out county election commissions and in texas trying to limit the ability of these counties to open the polls as they see fit. >> rop, we always appreciate getting your perspective on all this. we could talk to you for so much longer, but we're running out of

time. >> there will be more days. >> great to see you. yeah, there will be. thank you very much. thank you, air, erik, for helping me out with my allergy congested voice. it's been great to be here with you. >> i'll be here with you any day, as you know, my friend. >> and "the lead" starts right now. >> one year ago nine minutes and 29 seconds changed the nation. "the lead" starts right now. memorials and marches planned nationwide the year after the murder of george floyd. his killer, a former officer headed to prison for floyd's death, but what else has changed in that time? the house republican leader finally condemns the, quote, appalling comments from marjorie taylor greene comparing mask mandates to the holocaust. the if there was only someone with the power to take action against her for it. hmm. plus, donald trump claims immunity in